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Two-cent Tip: Yo! zdump!

Ben Okopnik [ben at linuxgazette.net]


Sun, 14 Mar 2010 23:43:47 -0400

----- Forwarded message from "s. keeling" <keeling@nucleus.com> -----

I've yet again just discovered that tomorrow morning is "spring forward Day", so this may be apropos:

   alias dst="zdump -v Canada/Mountain | grep $(date '+%Y')"

Substitute your TZ for C/M, of course. Submit to 2cT?

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* Ben Okopnik * Editor-in-Chief, Linux Gazette * http://LinuxGazette.NET *


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Ben Okopnik [ben at linuxgazette.net]


Mon, 15 Mar 2010 02:31:42 -0400

On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 11:43:47PM -0400, Benjamin Okopnik wrote:

> ----- Forwarded message from "s. keeling" <keeling@nucleus.com> -----
> 
> I've yet again just discovered that tomorrow morning is "spring
> forward Day", so this may be apropos:
> 
>    alias dst="zdump -v Canada/Mountain | grep $(date '+%Y')"
> 
> Substitute your TZ for C/M, of course.

Even that last part can be automated:

alias dst="zdump -v `cat /etc/timezone` | grep $(date '+%Y')"
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* Ben Okopnik * Editor-in-Chief, Linux Gazette * http://LinuxGazette.NET *


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Breen Mullins [breen.mullins at gmail.com]


Mon, 15 Mar 2010 11:53:07 -0700

* Ben Okopnik <ben@linuxgazette.net> [2010-03-15 02:31 -0400]:

>
>Even that last part can be automated:
>
>``
>alias dst="zdump -v `cat /etc/timezone` | grep $(date '+%Y')"
>''
>

For most of us that file should be /etc/localtime .

A large number of us had to worry about the time change on Sunday morning. The whole choir was there on time yesterday (!)

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Breen Mullins
<breen.mullins@gmail.com>


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Ben Okopnik [ben at okopnik.com]


Mon, 15 Mar 2010 15:55:43 -0400

On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 11:53:07AM -0700, Breen Mullins wrote:

> * Ben Okopnik <ben@linuxgazette.net> [2010-03-15 02:31 -0400]:
> 
> >
> >Even that last part can be automated:
> >
> >``
> >alias dst="zdump -v `cat /etc/timezone` | grep $(date '+%Y')"
> >''
> 
> For most of us that file should be /etc/localtime .

Breen, are you sure? My /etc/localtime is the actual timezone data - binary info - rather than the TZ string.

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Sam Bisbee [sbisbee at computervip.com]


Mon, 15 Mar 2010 16:55:06 -0400

On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 03:55:43PM -0400, Ben Okopnik wrote:

> On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 11:53:07AM -0700, Breen Mullins wrote:
> > * Ben Okopnik <ben@linuxgazette.net> [2010-03-15 02:31 -0400]:
> > 
> > >
> > >Even that last part can be automated:
> > >
> > >``
> > >alias dst="zdump -v `cat /etc/timezone` | grep $(date '+%Y')"
> > >''
> > 
> > For most of us that file should be /etc/localtime .
> 
> Breen, are you sure? My /etc/localtime is the actual timezone data -
> binary info - rather than the TZ string.
>  

Ditto - /etc/localtime is binary data and /etc/timezone is the string representation ("America/New_York").

Cheers,

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Breen Mullins [breen.mullins at gmail.com]


Mon, 15 Mar 2010 15:25:06 -0700

On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 12:55, Ben Okopnik <ben@okopnik.com> wrote:

>
> Breen, are you sure? My /etc/localtime is the actual timezone data -
> binary info - rather than the TZ string.

On Fedora, there's no /etc/timezone. Just /etc/localtime (which is the binary data file).

zdump -v /etc/localtime returns the expected output, though.

Aren't distributions fun?

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Breen Mullins
<breen.mullins@gmail.com>


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Ben Okopnik [ben at linuxgazette.net]


Mon, 15 Mar 2010 19:44:21 -0400

On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 03:25:06PM -0700, Breen Mullins wrote:

> On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 12:55, Ben Okopnik <ben@okopnik.com> wrote:
> >
> > Breen, are you sure? My /etc/localtime is the actual timezone data -
> > binary info - rather than the TZ string.
> 
> On Fedora, there's no /etc/timezone. Just /etc/localtime (which is the
> binary data file).

I've just checked, and it pretty much what I recalled (Debian used to do it this way years ago): /etc/localtime is a link to the actual timezone data in /usr/share/zoneinfo. Not much help, there.

> zdump -v /etc/localtime returns the expected output, though.

Perhaps that depends on what is expected. :)

ben@Jotunheim:~$ zdump -v America/New_York | grep $(date '+%Y')
America/New_York  Sun Mar 14 06:59:59 2010 UTC = Sun Mar 14 01:59:59 2010 EST isdst=0 gmtoff=-18000
America/New_York  Sun Mar 14 07:00:00 2010 UTC = Sun Mar 14 03:00:00 2010 EDT isdst=1 gmtoff=-14400
America/New_York  Sun Nov  7 05:59:59 2010 UTC = Sun Nov  7 01:59:59 2010 EDT isdst=1 gmtoff=-14400
America/New_York  Sun Nov  7 06:00:00 2010 UTC = Sun Nov  7 01:00:00 2010 EST isdst=0 gmtoff=-18000
ben@Jotunheim:~$ zdump -v /usr/share/zoneinfo/EDT
/usr/share/zoneinfo/EDT  Fri Dec 13 20:45:52 1901 UTC = Fri Dec 13 20:45:52 1901 isdst=0 gmtoff=0
/usr/share/zoneinfo/EDT  Sat Dec 14 20:45:52 1901 UTC = Sat Dec 14 20:45:52 1901 isdst=0 gmtoff=0
/usr/share/zoneinfo/EDT  Mon Jan 18 03:14:07 2038 UTC = Mon Jan 18 03:14:07 2038 isdst=0 gmtoff=0
/usr/share/zoneinfo/EDT  Tue Jan 19 03:14:07 2038 UTC = Tue Jan 19 03:14:07 2038 isdst=0 gmtoff=0
ben@Jotunheim:~$ zdump -v /usr/share/zoneinfo/EDT | grep $(date '+%Y')
ben@Jotunheim:~$ 

Neither of the last two gives you the time switch-over point, which was, I think, Stephen's whole point.

> Aren't distributions fun?

Heh. I'm sure that there's a way to get the same thing on a Fedora/CentOS system, but you're right: my adaptation of this script will only work on systems that have a file containing that TZ string (note that 'EST', etc., won't work; it has to be the 'Country/City' variety.) His version is distro-independent, though - assuming that all distros have 'zdump', of course. :)

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